IBC Group founder Mario Nawfal revealed on the X platform details of Elon Musk's interview on the Joe Rogan Experience. Musk stated that DOGE was initially just a joke, and he originally wanted to name it "Government Efficiency Department" because it is a "boring name". When talking about Tesla, Musk said that when he joined Tesla, the company had nothing - no cars or employees and did not exist in any meaningful form. Speaking about OpenAI, Musk said: "OpenAI was my idea. OpenAI should be open source because I want to do something opposite to Google as they are not focusing on AI safety."